Well, you’re using accurate terminology when asking a question that pertains to the distinctions of how the age related paraphilias work, so I’d actually call that a good thing. There is a difference clinically, and it does factor in to what you’re asking, though not to a great degree.

Pedophiles, as opposed to ephebophiles and also as opposed to hebephiles, have more trouble developing and maintaining adult relationships. I haven’t ever run across any studies on differentiating hebe and ephebe differences in this regard.

There’s a lot of unknowns though, and there’s a lot of issues in the existing data because it relies on either people that have offended, and/or those admitting it and willing to participate in research. That’s a really narrow band of participants.

That being said, because of what pedophilia is, there tends to be a greater degree of exclusivity than in other categories. Meaning that, when one is attracted to undeveloped bodies and/or minds, a person is much less likely to be able to experience attraction to fully developed bodies. So seeking relationships (romantic, sexual, or friendship) with young adults isn’t going to satisfy them. It’s a fairly hard line where once puberty begins causing changes, pedophiles lose interest, or even become outright repulsed.

Since hebephilia and ephebophilia are delineations that include more developed bodies and faces, the “edges” are blurrier for them. And, while people sometimes refuse to believe it, the actual age of the individual is not a primary factor in any of the chronophilias. Well, it can be, but it’s way less common. What is a primary factor is how closely the object of attraction cleaves to the chronophile’s inner “map”.

For an ephebophile, that inner set of criteria includes well developed secondary sexual characteristics. So, they have less trouble interacting with legal adults on a sexual level. Hebephiles are murkier because while their range of physical development is definitely not at adult ranges, the last I read anything (pre covid) had them being almost as capable of functioning as ephebophiles.

Which brings us back to your question more precisely. Pedophiles do sometimes seek out less obviously sketchy relationships. But it wouldn’t be something common. Whereas an ephebophile, by nature, does seek out romantic and/or sexual relationships with young adults and older teens. They (again, I’m pulling from old info here) can bypass some of the social issues as long as they pay attention to ages of consent, so have less reason to avoid seeking out their preferred level of development.

Again, hebephiles are the murkier category in that. It really isn’t as well studied, or wasn’t last time I was bored enough to go digging for an online question like this. I suspect that’s at least in part due to lower numbers. It seemed to me when looking at stuff that there’s less of them.

See, when it comes right down to it, ephebophiles aren’t the same kind of chronophilia as pedophiles are. The kind of development they respond to is near adult. Hell, in terms of the secondary sexual development alone, it’s not inherently different from attraction to adults, because by the approximate age ranges used to classify ephebophilia casually, many of those bodies are at adult development. It’s often other signs of youth that make the key difference. That attraction isn’t a malfunction, but a social issue.

Hebephiles? They’re classified as a disorder, iirc, but in day to day existence, are more likely to be able to find their attractions in legal outlets because some full adults lack the normative level of secondary sexual development.

Anyway, the short answer is yes, but there’s difference in how and why.

As I understand it there’s no friendship possible. Pedophilic individual don’t research friendship, they research control. They will lie to themselves and to others so they could have a modicum of control over their prey

I talked with one, awaiting his sentencing IIRC, what did he do when he lost control over the little girl he fancy ? Kill himself with his car, ram a wall. The guy was genuinely convinced the girl loved him.

Also forgive the use of “ephebophile,” I’m not using it in an apologist sense but because - when formulating my question - I was more thinking about people attracted to teenagers.

Thank you for clarifying. I’ve only ever seen this term used by people who seem obsessed with explaining the difference between “ephebophile” and “pedophile”. It’s gotten so bad that simply seeing the word makes me uncomfortable.

Edit: I just realized that I only touched upon half of your question. 🤣 There were some inmates who had committed sexual offenses against minors while being in a romantic and/or sexual relationship with a grownup, but if I recall correctly, they were a minority.

I worked as a correctional officer at a sexual offenders only prison for three years and during all my talks with the inmates - which is a lot, seven hours a week on average - I never got the impression that those that were sentenced for sexual offenses against minors had had platonic relations with their victims. It could just be the case that they didn’t tell me about it though, so take this with a grain of salt.

To understand why you need to ask them while we csn just guess our guesses and so far output from someone else, I personally don’t have average reason on that but regardless of romantic or any kinda similar attachment feelings towards teenagers or minor or even less than 20 should be taken as something is wrong 🧐 that’s my opinion

In my experience, yes… But I’ve only ever known one such person. He volunteered as a group leader in a scouting club I also volunteerd at. He had been with that group since his childhood. So he was never vetted or anything. Only after years, he started showing signs that were not ok. He had started a too close relationshio with one of the kids. We’re sure nothing sexual had happened, so thats a blessing, but he did start a relationship with one of the kids.

I’m not sure what exactly happened. It’s been more than a decade. But it was bad enough that the group had to solicit external advice.

I did know that person outside of scouting a bit and he did hang out mostly whith people a decade his junior.

Strictly according to the dictionary definition of the term, yes, sometimes. The definition of the disorder contains the words “primary or exclusive attraction”, leaving open the possibility of being attracted to other people of other ages.

seek out friendships or romantic relationships with young adults?

So, there are kinds of people you hear about culturally that despite whatever age bracket they are in, for some reason, keep wanting to go out with people that have just come out of high school, and are 18+.

For SOME reason, they KEEP trying to get into these kinds of relationships.

I wonder why that is? Not “oh, this random person I encountered and have good chemistry with happens to be lower age than me, but my previous and next partners have been a roughly sensible age for me”. No, these people keep going for that age range specifically; people who are legally adults, but only just.

I wonder what motivates these people to do that? 🤔

yes, its called GROOMING. its not outright pedophelia, but they start “Befriending” minors at a young age, and then they try to marry them when they are adult. karoline leavitt married someone more twice her seniour, i believe she was groomed while a teen.

seeking young adults, is a little less strange, than a minor. but if the age gap is huge, like 10+years then you would question the one that is pursuing the relationship. because someone that old has very little in common with someone 10+years younger.

someone like drake, was trying to grooming millie, this isnt romantic, more like a predator. romantic would imply consenting adults that is aware of thier age/gap, and they have other things in common that isnt SEXUAL/power. which minors and adults rarely have.

also minors still have thier “innocence” that is exploited by pedos.