Yes. Provided you find a phone that can unlock the bootloader and you are fine in losing banking app, government issued apps and such amenities…
Given that Samsung and Xiaomi doesn’t let you unlock anymore… Unless you are ok giving money to Google to buy a pixel, new or used, there are really little choices currently. Nothing phones, a few motorola (hit and miss…).
For example, we have digital ID that you can load on the phone your ID card and driving license, which is not allowed on unlocked phones. Also, McDonald app doesn’t work on unlocked phones …
So good luck hoping people will use custom Roms, even less than before. Google is fucking us a small step a time.
Just lock the bootloader again? I don’t have Google on my Android and can use banking apps and most others that don’t have a hard requirements on some Google API.
Most phones can’t even relock the bootloader. And newer Samsung ones can’t even get flashed. Recent updates removed even the ability to flash a custom recovery
It’s easy enough to work around most of it, with web apps. You can even install them to have separate icons. Granted, there are some things that are impossible, like digital ID, but there aren’t any that fundamentally affect phone usability, for my personal use.
What’s holding me up is work stuff. I get a stipend to have a work phone, so I just use my personal device, but I’m getting a separate device for work soon so I can cut out everything Google/Microsoft on me personal device. Digital control and privacy matters.
No. You cannot. The digital id I was referring to can be activated only via app, and banking apps are mandatory. You can do web banking paying an additional fee and using sms authentication, but as I said it’s an additional fee. Maybe worth paying for, ymmv.
But the real practical of the digital id is that I will never be (again) fined for driving without a driving license with me because I always have my phone with me. I usually have also my real driving license, but sometimes I leave the wallet home or whatever.
It’s just practical stuff, you can do without, but why should I.
What banks charge fees for web banking!? That doesn’t make a lick of sense, imho… That incentivizes using much-more-expensive in-person banking.
Also, even if there are some banks that don’t have web banking, it’s easy enough to switch banks (at least, in the countries I know about). Some people even regularly cycle through institutions to get sign-on bonuses a couple times each year.
But, yes. It’s less convenient to use platforms that respect privacy, and requires some trade-offs.
I’d rather not be able to have a digital ID on my phone if I have to allow a company full access to scan my stuff, how do I know they won’t delete my ID at some point and just say it is what it is?
Yes. Provided you find a phone that can unlock the bootloader and you are fine in losing banking app, government issued apps and such amenities…
Given that Samsung and Xiaomi doesn’t let you unlock anymore… Unless you are ok giving money to Google to buy a pixel, new or used, there are really little choices currently. Nothing phones, a few motorola (hit and miss…).
For example, we have digital ID that you can load on the phone your ID card and driving license, which is not allowed on unlocked phones. Also, McDonald app doesn’t work on unlocked phones …
So good luck hoping people will use custom Roms, even less than before. Google is fucking us a small step a time.
so you’re selling your right to privacy and choice for the convenience of a…banking app?
you sound like a cheap date. wanna go grab some food from the dumpsters behind Arby’s?
Just lock the bootloader again? I don’t have Google on my Android and can use banking apps and most others that don’t have a hard requirements on some Google API.
Most phones can’t even relock the bootloader. And newer Samsung ones can’t even get flashed. Recent updates removed even the ability to flash a custom recovery
It’s easy enough to work around most of it, with web apps. You can even install them to have separate icons. Granted, there are some things that are impossible, like digital ID, but there aren’t any that fundamentally affect phone usability, for my personal use.
What’s holding me up is work stuff. I get a stipend to have a work phone, so I just use my personal device, but I’m getting a separate device for work soon so I can cut out everything Google/Microsoft on me personal device. Digital control and privacy matters.
No. You cannot. The digital id I was referring to can be activated only via app, and banking apps are mandatory. You can do web banking paying an additional fee and using sms authentication, but as I said it’s an additional fee. Maybe worth paying for, ymmv.
But the real practical of the digital id is that I will never be (again) fined for driving without a driving license with me because I always have my phone with me. I usually have also my real driving license, but sometimes I leave the wallet home or whatever.
It’s just practical stuff, you can do without, but why should I.
What banks charge fees for web banking!? That doesn’t make a lick of sense, imho… That incentivizes using much-more-expensive in-person banking.
Also, even if there are some banks that don’t have web banking, it’s easy enough to switch banks (at least, in the countries I know about). Some people even regularly cycle through institutions to get sign-on bonuses a couple times each year.
But, yes. It’s less convenient to use platforms that respect privacy, and requires some trade-offs.
What digital ID app are you talking about? Only one I could find references of online was “DigiLocker”
It’s called IO
I’d rather not be able to have a digital ID on my phone if I have to allow a company full access to scan my stuff, how do I know they won’t delete my ID at some point and just say it is what it is?