I’m not talking about while you’re eating, I’m talking about during the next couple hours after over eating. A food coma is absolutely the same feeling as a good high from some drugs. After eating a way too huge meal and laying on the couch i feel soooooo relaxed and floaty and drifting in and out of heavy sleep.
The problem with overeating, is once you need to stop yourself, it’s harder to - because you still need to eat. You still need to keep doing the thing that you’ve got a problem with.
Imagine if to “stop smoking”, you had to smoke 3x a day?
That’s why eating disorders are so damn hard for people.
I desperately wish I could go cold turkey on eating. It is such a difficult thing to regulate for me, I want to simply give it up like I did for nicotine.
GLP1 drugs changed my life. When I’m on it, I have absolutely no desire to overeat. When I’m off it, even if my stomach is hurting from overeating, I still want to eat. It’s pretty crazy.
I recently quit and I’ve been surprised that I haven’t gained all my weight back yet.
But it’s truly crazy until you try this drug, if it works for you, how life changing it is. It really is like, wow, is this how it feels like to be able to be normal???
Do smoothies/liquid ish things instead… Protein powder + spinach leaves+ any combination of blackberries, raspberries, strawberries, pineapple, bananas …
Mmm cold turkey.
Not bad. Nice, hot mustard. Good bread. The turkey’s a little dry… The turkey’s a little dry? Oh foul accursed thing! What demon from the depths of hell created thee?
I’ve quit a nicotine addiction of 11 years cold turkey. That was the easiest because I self regulated most of the time and never reached pack a day. More like pack a week max. Urge to smoke faded within a week.
I’ve quit a cannabis addiction of 8 years cold turkey. That was harder, because I vaped every hour I was conscious. So widthdrawal was pretty fucking awful, but I managed.
Food is crazy hard for me. I was in a 7/11 after every work shift. I got into a really bad delivery food habit during covid lockdowns. I hadn’t cooked my own meals regularly for over 12 years. It was fucking up my health and self esteem severely. I wasn’t a ham planet only because I’m abnormally tall. Still, ideal for me is 220lbs and my worst was 290lbs.
I did extended fasting. You can quit cold turkey, it’s the hardest thing I ever did. Had to give my roommate my pay cards to hide from myself when I was on work week or I’d keep breaking early. Deleted saved pay info from web browsers. First three days are the worst. I’d go 2-3 weeks in a row and then take a month break. Longer is too dangerous or I’m too risk adverse. Either way. Repeated until goal weight. Yadya Yadya drank mineral slurry to not die, not getting into it here.
After that the addictive urges to buy a bunch of candy, carbs, and junk food slowly faded but I had to learn new habits. That’s also very hard for a depressive person. I’ve managed so far to buy raw unprocessed foods for lunch (I don’t do breakfast) and my roommate and I take turns cooking calorie wise HelloFresh dinner meals for now. Slowly getting better at cooking. Eventually I’ll wean off of this service. I’m just trying not to relapse for now.
My mindset until I’m feeling confident is anything highly processed is an evil virus of capitalist satan and I have to avoid it lol. It’s easier since it’s in combination with boycotting American owned/imported everything that I can.
So it can be done. Just don’t develop a new different eating disorder in the process.
Very inspirational, thanks for sharing! What mineral slurry would you consume, if you don’t mind me asking? I quit cigarettes 8 years ago cold turkey no issues, I’m currently trying to muster willpower to wean myself off of cannabis, but binging food when I’m at home is still something I have not had much luck with yet.
I’ve fasted before. Just three days so I can eat normally on the 4th and not having worry about refeeding syndrome. I’m pretty sure hes talking about your daily electrolyte requirements
I bought nu salt(potassium chloride) and added that to regular salt to my jug of water(2L) and a Cal+Mag pill. I didn’t do long fasts so it didn’t really matter for me, but they are crucial for any extended fast.
Nice yeah, you have the latest list.
With my 2-3 week long fasts I did have to worry about this. Basically @dditty@lemmy.dbzer0.com you have to be careful not to eat too much right away. Eespecially not refined sugar/carbs, best to stick to tiny Keto diet meals at first because that’s what your body is doing during a fast anyways. You’ll be deep into Ketosis burning body fat for energy while fasted. You actually lose most of the weight by breathing it out in reality. This is known as Keto Breath. Also, invest in a tongue scraper.
For the first few meals breaking a long fast, you have to eat like a bird. Why is pretty straight forward to look up yourself / research. Knowledge alleviates fear.
Basically it’s to do with a huge insulin spike if you don’t heed this warning. Cells will all rapidly absorb electrolytes leading to dangerously low blood levels. Phosphorus is critical for ATP, you can get organ failure. Refeeding triggers water retention too and if it’s too rapid it can cause heart failure, arrhythmias, or sudden death. Hypoglycemia (low blood sugar) or thiamine (B1) deficiency as well.
This is also why if you eat for a few days Keto diet before starting a fast, the first few days won’t be nearly as hard to get through. Getting into a ketosis (not burning glucose) state before fasting helps a great deal.
edit: oh and it’s best to do this in winter months when you sweat less. Easier to manage electrolytes is all.
If you get the runs (never trust a fart when fasting, bring spare undies with you when venturing outside) my go to was psyllium husk with a bit of water to make balls out of it and swallow them. I couldn’t stand mixing it into a glass of water, disgusting. This stuff is 0 cal fiber.
Baking Soda masks the otherwise atrocious taste of the electrolyte mix very well. Don’t forget to add it.
That’s what I used to think, long ago. Ever since I discovered keto as an adult, it’s like the world has changed. It’s like finding the magic key after a lifetime of struggling with an invisible lock
What’s better, IMO, is keeping a balanced diet that minimizes or eliminates refined carbs and emphasizes protein and unsaturated fats. Unrefined carbs like whole grains can still be very filling even if they’re somewhat calorie dense, and a strict keto diet can make it harder to eat some otherwise healthy foods.
You can pry my falafel from my cold dead hands
Strict keto takes away the food noise, which is what a lot of us struggle with. There’s no longer the cravings, you’re not fighting your own body every hour of every day.
Personally, I’ve settled on a long-term diet
All my food noise is gone. All my cravings are gone. I still have some emotional triggers, like walking by a donut shop. I used to walk by, but that’s much more manageable. I’m not struggling with food like I used to. I actually only eat about once a day, I don’t have any cravings. When I do get hungry. It’s a very different hunger than before, it’s just oh I could eat, not I must eat.
From my understanding, food noise can be caused by a few things ranging from eating habits and culture to poor nutrition. Keto is able to help by filling your diet with things that keep you feeling full (protein and fat) and giving you some straightforward rules that keep you eating those things, which makes you not hungry as often and forces you to have some discipline around eating. You can still get cravings and noise on a keto diet though if your nutrition is off.
Whole grains can actually still be very filling despite their calorie density, on par with fats, but they have other nutritional benefits. They contain a lot of important nutrients, vitamins, minerals, and fiber that can reduce cravings and help keep the food noise down.
I’ve actually done keto before, the strict rules were helpful discipline-wise, but I was able to get all of the same benefits without actually being in ketosis. By trying to keep myself eating foods that keep me full, by avoiding binging and keeping my habits in check, and by getting rid of refined carbs (pasta and sugar are the worst, it’s like you didn’t even eat anything) I’ve been able to keep my diet in check pretty well.
Also be careful about saturated fats long-term. It can be bad for your heart if they make up too much of your diet. You’re probably aware already but I thought I’d mention it just in case.
I would also add that keto also removes glucose spikes->insulin spikes->glucose dips, removes lots of the low energy hangry loops that most people are stuck in.
Sure, that would just be biologically appropriate hunger, since the nutrition is off and the body wants more nutrition.
Fantastic!
Did keto not keep you feeling full?
Thanks for bringing that up. My reading of the literature has satisfied me that in the absence of elevated glucose and metabolic disease saturated fats are actually quite healthy and not a long term health risk (at least for myself).
All carbohydrates I am eating are brown rice, whole-grain pasta and pumpernickel. I don’t know what “food noise” is supposed to be.
Ok, how long can you go between meals? If you skip a meal what happens? Do you need snacks? What if you had no snacks? Do you get hangry? Do you think you could jump into a 48 hour fast right now with no prep?
Food noise is all the urges, tendencies, cravings, hungers, and other signals that are part of snack culture, if you don’t have any food noise - that is amazing, I’m glad!