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    You have these rights on paper. In fact you have no rights. It’s obey or die.

    You voted for this, America. But hey. Kamala wasn’t a True Socialist, amirite?

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      Yeah, blame the lefties for not stopping the righties instead of, you know, the righties.

      I mean seriously you think that the people who didn’t vote for Kamala were such a large portion of the population they outnumber maga? That’s wildly optimistic.

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    you have a legal rights to defend yourself with a firearm, which the gop and even tried is trying to discourage from.

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    Remember kids, murder is against the law. So, if ICE tries to murder you like they did those 2 other people just say, “thats illegal”.

    They will have no choice but to stop murdering you.

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      ICE has murdered about 50 people so far this year.

      They don’t just execute white people in the streets. Don’t forget that they also operate concentration camps that have been murdering brown people for years

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      Also tell them a judge has decided they cannot destroy evidence of your murder, so they need to carefully document it, or else not at all so there’s nothing to save.

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    You de facto do not have a right to have your rights honored though. If an agent wants to put a slug in your head, they will demonize you, maybe persecute your friends and anyone sticking up for you.

    The state needs to file open murder charges for both executions. There is nothing to investigate that is a cowardly cop out

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    I don’t think the ICE officer will care about your rights, much less about rights that they don’t even know…

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        You think recognizing that they don’t care about your rights is the same as “not resisting”?

        The problem is that people don’t recognize that their rights don’t matter anymore.

        Alex Pretti exercised his 2nd amendment right and never broke the law, yet he was executed in broad daylight. It’s time to recognize that your rights no longer protect you (just like they rarely ever protected minorites) and fucking revolt already.

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          I read it like that comment have been directed at the article, implying ‘know your rights’ to be ‘…and do not resist’

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    YSK legal rights don’t mean shit to administrations that don’t respect the law. Compliance with ICE can be deadly - arm yourself and do whatever you need to do to stay safe.

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      Sadly 100% this. These jokers have proved they can just murder folk and nothing happens. Be safe be armed be ready.

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      But you can feel some sort of satisfaction as you count them off just before they execute you.

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      Sounds like an excellent opportunity to sue them into the ground. A federal officer illegal disregarding your constitutional rights is a payday most can only dream of.

      So chill out and lawyer up.

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            Actually no, qualified immunity shields them personally. A tortured precedent, if the exact situation has not happened and been sued on it gets thrown out, or some ridiculous thing like that.

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              Qualified immunity can be stripped. It’s not absolute. Constitutional violations are absolutely grounds for losing qualified immunity.

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                In theory or what? Last I heard they were virtually immune. Courts are getting worse, not better too, and judges decide.

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                  Judges are appointed for life; there’s really no reason why they would match lock step with Trumps orders. Yes they’re conservative (not all of them), but I don’t believe they’re going to break the law or compromise their integrity for Trump.

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        The courts are fucked, we cannot sue our way out of this. Scotus will cancel it with any success, if appeals did not first.

        They already barred nationwide injunctions. The admin could round up citizens to concentration camps and no judge can now say stop. You can try to sue individually as if irreperable harm would not have haapened by then if you could even get it into court.

        Seriously that was a big deal and media did not realize it. Or tell us if they did. Scotus is nazi.

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        Its almost impossible (especially with this administration) to sue the federal government and win. They have to agree to allow you to sue them before things can even get started.

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    Those rights would count in a country still under the rule of law. Which the US is no longer.

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    Studded tires and going slower than the posted speed limit, which normally is the expected speed and you shouldn’t go more than 10% slower than it. Those are two rights that come to mind when dealing with ice.

    Oh wait ICE means something else in the US. Yeah, good luck guys.

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        You can if it’s slippery or when there’s a corner. Not on a straight dry road with good visibility. That’s just pointlessly dangerous

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          There are very few roads with minimum speed limits. If you’re driving the exact same as the speed limit, you’re the one that’s endangering everyone on the road.

          You should always expect a bicycle around every turn that’s going 5 mph.

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            If someone’s going >10% over the speed limit, that means other people have to pass them, which is a dangerous maneuver. If they’re going the speed limit, only selfish people will pass them.

            Police are literally allowed stop you for going 50-60 on a 90 km/h road here in the middle of the summer. It’s suspicious and a completely valid reason to check if you’re drunk.

            around every turn that’s going 5 mph.

            But

            You can if it’s slippery or when there’s a corner. Not on a straight dry road with good visibility.

            I literally said that corners (tight ones anyway) and poor visibility (which corners can cause) in general are valid excuses, in addition to the aforementioned ice. “I was scared of doing 90” is not. I think you’re lacking a little bit of reading comprehension. Must be the famously excellent American school system.