I get that there is nuance to why people feel some admiration for a strongman figure, but why not take the mask off and bring back monarchy and aristocracy, if people are getting tired of democracy and want to be ruled? Like those defending the rich and don’t want to raise taxes on them, in the hopes that they become rich themselves and would not vote against their own projected interest, do some people think they will become dictator themselves one day?
Its not an invasion, its “spreading democracy”
It’s not subjugating other cultures, it’s a “Liberation”
There’s a reason they call it the “People’s Liberation Army” and not “The People’s Oppression Army”, its branding. It makes people feel free.
Hong Kong is being “Liberated” from the British… PRC is all about liberating you fron colonialism, but don’t ask what 2019 was about, those are 100% rIoTeRs, duh. Liberation. So liberated there’s a firewall on the internet. So liberated it’s illegal to strike, so liberated my existence as a second-born is a crime. So liberated that rural people as in a different caste and never welcomed in cities.
This is why I am a (constitutional) monarchist. I trust a nepobaby over someone who lied, deceived and cheated to the top.
Like all things, democracy is a game. You can cheat at that game.
How would you feel about a federated anti-authoritarian worker controlled egalitarian society, as practiced in Catalonia during the Spanish Civil war? That seems to be a very effective update to democracy which fixes most of the issues related to gaming it, and absolves the need for any type of centralized state control or leader.
I know what I’m watching the next time I’m eating
Because for a while not every country voted for a dictator.
Wrong premise. There are lots of monarchies around the world, in all continents. Thailand, UK, Spain, Sweden, are only the first that come to my mind.
USA is definitely not most of the world.
Also, some dictators are the result of failed democracies, some dictators come from places that never had democracy in the first place (Russia, many African countries…) And some dictators have been put in power by democracies (see center and south Amerixa for examples).
The far right are gaining influence and power in Spain, UK and Thailand.
That doesn’t mean the premise is correct though.
“Most of the world” is not electing a dictator anyway. It’s not a mask to take off but a dangerous development to counter.
At least most of the western world is falling to fascism, though.
Source?
The average person just doesnt care about things as long as they are placated and their most base needs are met. Many people actively avoid or are angered by having to think for themselves (see the “its not that deep” crowd).
You end up with
- a large non voting population that just listens and passively supports whatever the most popular ideas are
- a small but vocal, fervent minority that drowns out everyone else and is backed by corporate interests. Typically these corporate interests are able to pay people to advocate for whatever they want, bribe politicians, whatever.
- A minority of people who tend to actually think for themselves, have more empathy / be less individualistic but have their voices, ideas and causes suppressed by the people in 2.
In the US, republicans are 2. and Democrats try to appeal to 2 since theyre paid by those same corporate interests when their voting base is actually 1. This leads to people in 1 who would otherwise have voted for them feeling like theyre unheard since the democratic rhetoric either appeals to 2 or denies the realities and actual popular ideas
Add on top of that capitalistic pressures on the average working person and people tend to become more selfish and individualistic, which causes ppl in 1. to just not vote if the democrats dont give them what they want, 2. to always vote republican because they fall for the propaganda, and 3. to either vote Democrat anyways as harm reduction or not vote because the Dems dont listen.
Really, it is the apathy of the more “left” party to what people actually want that pushes people towards anyone who will listen, which tends to be the more “right” party that will try to activate any fear they can and promise people the moon just to get a vote, even if they never have an intention on delivering.
What do you imagine the difference is between a dictator and a king?
Kings tended to claim a Divine right to rule, while dictators typically don’t.
And that’s why I’m a monarchist. When the king’s men come to abduct my daughter to the rape dungeons, I can rest easy knowing it was God’s will.
People prefer to choose their own authoritarians.
Username checks out, good one.
The billionaire “nobility” installed the dicators.
Awesome point, but did most of the world get rid of Monarchies?
I would say no, & The USA is moving backwards into Feudalism/Monarchy.
Not us, but our ancestors were simply manipulated into accepting Capitalism, where The Monarchs not killed, like in France, were made monopoly industry leaders or welfare families, like in The EU, some are both in EU. Some EU Royal Families actually still can decide laws! Of course, in far, far & far too many middle eastern countries they never got rid of Monarchy Royal Families.They were just waiting their time to come again, & it is starting to move backwards to their time.
Our ancestors did a great job of revolutionary war, but terrible at only accepting what was needed for their future governance!
Some EU Royal Families actually still can decide laws!
Please name just one.
Before a bill is made act of law in the UK it must get royal assent.
Technically speaking the UK is not in the EU. And while technically (I think, it’s not really clear) the royal assent can be denied in practice the last time a bill was refused was over 300 years ago. The royal assent is effectively a formality.
Technically speaking the UK is not in the EU.
And Im still not over that, many use EU and Europe interchangeably though.
Monaco, Lichtenstein, and Vatican.
Obviously, I do not need to. See getting Independent, political Left media education works, just extremely hard to find in a Capitalist- moving to Feudalistic Wotld!
Norway, Sweden, Denmark and UK are just the first that come to mind. Probably most of the rest as well.
Today it is more a traditional technicality, but the monarch most often still “has the final say” before anything are put into law.
Which then is technically correct, but has never been done. Also, the King in Denmark for example has no veto right.
It’s the ministers who decide.
So making the argument in a post about dictatorship and control from monarchs is pretty weak.
I was answering to a comment, not the main post.
And while most European monarchs have “final approval” for new laws, they are technically powerless, hence why I specified just that. It is a traditional technicality, with no real power behind it any more.
Democracy works on the presumption of virtue.
Because if you guilt-trip the population into believing, their misfortune is due to majority vote, being in favor of controversial policy (which is bipartisan); they will fight amongst each other, as opposed to their monarch. But with today’s surveillance technology, a monarch would be able to avoid mass protest: by impairing leaders during the early stages of their movements; prohibiting these from snowballing out of control. This would further simplify the process of control, as opposed to having to ensure corruption, in the binary left-right politics.
