It must surely be imminent. He’s not in the best health if the reports about him eating mcdonalds all the time are true. He’s 79 which isn’t that old but I dont see many fat, stressed 90 year olds on a mcdonalds diet.
Say he had a heart attack next week… then what? Presumably Vance would take over as actual president, but I can’t imagine anyone being as bad as him. Would the maga movement continue with a different cult leader? Do you think things would meaningfully change?
Satan keeps his people alive. He has more energy than most 40 year olds.
79 is not that old? Most people dont live to be 85. So yeah, its pretty old… The average age of death for males in America is 76 years old. Only 1 in 10 males reaches 90.
Politicians will use his death for X agenda. vance is primed for it and Erika Kirk is a good case study.
You mean after the biggest party ever?
Dancing in the streets?
There is a long list of politicians who have tried to do the Trump thing ever since the stupid escalator. Florida Governor DeSantis made a tiny little bit of headway that ultimately collapsed around him, Marge Greene has been setting herself up as the post-Maga maga leader, and Ted Cruz of Texas has been trying for the longest time to position himself as heir apparent of the current GOP, but there hasn’t been anyone who has been able to capture the same spectrum of blind devotion to grudging acceptance that Donald Trump has somehow managed to unite into the Maga movement.
JD Vance certainly isn’t it, and while he’ll certainly get the Oval Office when Trump dies before completing his term, I think his presidency will be fairly unremarkable and rather short, and afterwards he’ll move into private equity consulting or some such and never be seen in politics again.
But without Joe Rogan and Charlie Kirk, and with a ton of the other influencers either jumping ship or losing face, I don’t think we’ll see the same focus on a single candidate again. Since 2016, we’ve had a historical alignment of domestic influence and foreign interference that focused on Trump specifically, and he has used that (as he always does) to build the Trump brand and only the Trump brand. Nobody else can use it; not even Don Jr., who has tried dipping his toes in and mostly been ignored.
So I think the answer is, the maga cult sputters and dies. Maybe it sticks around long enough to poison the waters for a couple more election cycles, but it won’t elect another president. The best case scenario, in my mind, would be maga breaking away from the GOP and trying to field candidates for a few years that become spoilers.
Either way, the Republicans will eventually put the mask back on and try to pretend like nothing ever happened (though I can’t possibly predict whether that’ll work. My gut says yes, but maybe that’s just me being cynical).
Maybe it sticks around long enough to poison the waters for a couple more election cycles
This is kind of my best case scenario for the cult. Stick around and try their own thing, which results in siphoning votes from the Republican party.
the Republicans will eventually put the mask back on and try to pretend like nothing ever happened (though I can’t possibly predict whether that’ll work)
Oh it’ll work. After Bush Jr. Republicans pulled a “Who? Oh I didn’t know him that well”. Then they got a fascist elected. Their base has hamster brains. This whole ordeal should have buried the Republican party in a deep unmarked grave. But it won’t.
We’d get Vance, who is arguably worse. Seriously. Look into the guy. He’s a freakshow, but more subtle than Trump. Still very stupid though, so we’d still be led by a stupid extremist.
The cult as we know it would end though. Vance isn’t going to be able to take over as cult leader. He doesn’t have the flamboyant bigotry that Trump does, which is what draws low IQ conservatives to him like he’s some idol.
Doesn’t matter. I’ve witnessed conservatives all my life. With Trump gone, they’ll absolutely vote for the next shitstain racist/fascist/bigot/moron the Republican party hands them. Because they will never, under any circumstances, vote blue. And they’ll never vote 3rd party cuz they won’t want to risk baby eating Democrats gaining power. So they’ll bite their tongues and vote for whatever Republican is on the menu. And now that Trump has opened Pandora’s Box, we’re just going to see worse and worse candidates from Republicans because they watched and saw what Trump was able to get away with, so they’ll take advantage, because why wouldn’t they? They’ll want their turn to grift the presidency to create their own dynasty.
I don’t want to make a Monday even shittier than it already is, but realistically, things are probably going to get worse, not better, even with Trump gone. But hey, at least we won’t have to hear his fucking voice anymore or wake up wondering what monumentally stupid thing he’s said or done every fucking day.
Things usually have to get a lot worse before they can become better
The immediate thing that would happen would be spontaneous dancing in the streets.
But to the point of your question, I see things splitting in the following ways:
RFK jr health grifter faction
JD Vance silicon valley faction
Fuentes/Owens antisemitism faction
I think there is going to be real right-wing schism over isreal. RFK jr is a boomer and will back isreal out of conditioning, the SV tech industry is in deep with the isreali MIC, and young republicans are motivated foremost by racism/mysogyny/anti-semitism.
My theory is they’ll treat him like some kind of political deity like Regan. Regan died and they wouldn’t stop talking about him like political Jesus until trump came along. At one point during the rnc convention they wanted to bring a hologram Regan on stage “think like hologram 2pac but Regan” but they thought the hologram would showboat Romney at the time.
https://www.vanityfair.com/hollywood/2012/08/ronald-reagan-hologram-republic-national-convention
Chuck Norris will come out from grave like nothing happens.
My practical experience with people with anti social personality disorder rarely feel stress, they thrive doing constant power games and destroying lives. So I doubt he’s stressed.
When he dies I’ll fucking rejoice. Other than that I dunno
come on out armchair historians!
I will celebrate so hard
Jessica Foster will take over. Semper Fudge.
Peter Thiel, the puppeteer of Shady Vance, will enact the final phase of his forced “rapture”.
MAGA is a classic Cult of Personality, and Trump’s death will be the end. Like all Dictators, he won’t name a successor because he doesn’t want to give any power to anyone else, so he’ll let Rubio and Vance fight it out for his own entertainment.
Meanwhile there are a bunch of MAGA losers entertaining the fantasy of taking over MAGA when Trump dies. Guys like Don Jr. You don’t think he feels like he’s ENTITLED to succeed his father to the throne? Or Hegseth? Or Lindsey Graham? Or DeSantis? Or Abbot? Or Tucker Carlson?
When Trump assumes room temperature, the knives are going to come out, and the backstabbing will begin. It will be glorious.
Dems should know this is coming upon Trump’s inevitable death, and understand that it will be a unique golden moment for them. They better be ready to take full advantage of that opportunity with a plan in place to deploy when it happens.
I disagree with your “he won’t name a successor”. He will name 6, one of whom will be his yet to be announced IVF child with Laura Loomer. They will fight and claw for dominance and 65 years later they’ll make a dark comedy holofilm about the infighting after Krasnov’s death.
I disagree. He won’t choose an uggo like Loomer. Even plastic surgery couldn’t help her. She may be down for blowjays on command, but he won’t want to breed with her. These MAGAs are closet eugenicists, even though Trump has never heard that word, but he knows about plantation owners breeding their slaves, so he understands how it works.
Stephen “PeeWee Himmler” Miller will tell him that he wants someone with good genes, although Trump will think PeeWee said “Good Jeans,” and think it means a chick with a good ass, and he’ll demand, “Get me a 12 year old with a hot ass!” and the entire US government will be tasked to find a pretty child for him to rape and impregnate, for the good of the nation.
Hopefully, before any of that happens, he’ll just stroke out in the middle of a dumb speech, accompanied by a confused facial expression, a hilarious vocal noise, and a loud wet fart.
When that happens, put me down for $50 on MAGA Cloning Program in the betting pool.
see i thought they picked Loomer as their next … i can’t even think of the word it’s so heinous. not breeder, not incubator just living womb. like, years ago. and then the dementia set in and that’s the only reason she keeps buzzing around.
