It must surely be imminent. He’s not in the best health if the reports about him eating mcdonalds all the time are true. He’s 79 which isn’t that old but I dont see many fat, stressed 90 year olds on a mcdonalds diet.
Say he had a heart attack next week… then what? Presumably Vance would take over as actual president, but I can’t imagine anyone being as bad as him. Would the maga movement continue with a different cult leader? Do you think things would meaningfully change?
Parties. Celebration. But things won’t really improve in the short term. Medium term, maybe the cult fractures, but fascism is much bigger than this one fuckhead.
Still, parties.
I’ll go into the nearest pub and buy everyone a round.
Things are likely to stay pretty shitty as Trump is a symptom rather than an underlying cause, but we’ve had precious little to celebrate.
Satan keeps his people alive. He has more energy than most 40 year olds.
79 is not that old? Most people dont live to be 85. So yeah, its pretty old… The average age of death for males in America is 76 years old. Only 1 in 10 males reaches 90.
You mean after the biggest party ever?
Politicians will use his death for X agenda. vance is primed for it and Erika Kirk is a good case study.
Dancing in the streets?
There is a long list of politicians who have tried to do the Trump thing ever since the stupid escalator. Florida Governor DeSantis made a tiny little bit of headway that ultimately collapsed around him, Marge Greene has been setting herself up as the post-Maga maga leader, and Ted Cruz of Texas has been trying for the longest time to position himself as heir apparent of the current GOP, but there hasn’t been anyone who has been able to capture the same spectrum of blind devotion to grudging acceptance that Donald Trump has somehow managed to unite into the Maga movement.
JD Vance certainly isn’t it, and while he’ll certainly get the Oval Office when Trump dies before completing his term, I think his presidency will be fairly unremarkable and rather short, and afterwards he’ll move into private equity consulting or some such and never be seen in politics again.
But without Joe Rogan and Charlie Kirk, and with a ton of the other influencers either jumping ship or losing face, I don’t think we’ll see the same focus on a single candidate again. Since 2016, we’ve had a historical alignment of domestic influence and foreign interference that focused on Trump specifically, and he has used that (as he always does) to build the Trump brand and only the Trump brand. Nobody else can use it; not even Don Jr., who has tried dipping his toes in and mostly been ignored.
So I think the answer is, the maga cult sputters and dies. Maybe it sticks around long enough to poison the waters for a couple more election cycles, but it won’t elect another president. The best case scenario, in my mind, would be maga breaking away from the GOP and trying to field candidates for a few years that become spoilers.
Either way, the Republicans will eventually put the mask back on and try to pretend like nothing ever happened (though I can’t possibly predict whether that’ll work. My gut says yes, but maybe that’s just me being cynical).
Maybe it sticks around long enough to poison the waters for a couple more election cycles
This is kind of my best case scenario for the cult. Stick around and try their own thing, which results in siphoning votes from the Republican party.
the Republicans will eventually put the mask back on and try to pretend like nothing ever happened (though I can’t possibly predict whether that’ll work)
Oh it’ll work. After Bush Jr. Republicans pulled a “Who? Oh I didn’t know him that well”. Then they got a fascist elected. Their base has hamster brains. This whole ordeal should have buried the Republican party in a deep unmarked grave. But it won’t.
We’d get Vance, who is arguably worse. Seriously. Look into the guy. He’s a freakshow, but more subtle than Trump. Still very stupid though, so we’d still be led by a stupid extremist.
The cult as we know it would end though. Vance isn’t going to be able to take over as cult leader. He doesn’t have the flamboyant bigotry that Trump does, which is what draws low IQ conservatives to him like he’s some idol.
Doesn’t matter. I’ve witnessed conservatives all my life. With Trump gone, they’ll absolutely vote for the next shitstain racist/fascist/bigot/moron the Republican party hands them. Because they will never, under any circumstances, vote blue. And they’ll never vote 3rd party cuz they won’t want to risk baby eating Democrats gaining power. So they’ll bite their tongues and vote for whatever Republican is on the menu. And now that Trump has opened Pandora’s Box, we’re just going to see worse and worse candidates from Republicans because they watched and saw what Trump was able to get away with, so they’ll take advantage, because why wouldn’t they? They’ll want their turn to grift the presidency to create their own dynasty.
I don’t want to make a Monday even shittier than it already is, but realistically, things are probably going to get worse, not better, even with Trump gone. But hey, at least we won’t have to hear his fucking voice anymore or wake up wondering what monumentally stupid thing he’s said or done every fucking day.
Things usually have to get a lot worse before they can become better
The immediate thing that would happen would be spontaneous dancing in the streets.
But to the point of your question, I see things splitting in the following ways:
RFK jr health grifter faction
JD Vance silicon valley faction
Fuentes/Owens antisemitism faction
I think there is going to be real right-wing schism over isreal. RFK jr is a boomer and will back isreal out of conditioning, the SV tech industry is in deep with the isreali MIC, and young republicans are motivated foremost by racism/mysogyny/anti-semitism.
My theory is they’ll treat him like some kind of political deity like Regan. Regan died and they wouldn’t stop talking about him like political Jesus until trump came along. At one point during the rnc convention they wanted to bring a hologram Regan on stage “think like hologram 2pac but Regan” but they thought the hologram would showboat Romney at the time.
https://www.vanityfair.com/hollywood/2012/08/ronald-reagan-hologram-republic-national-convention
My practical experience with people with anti social personality disorder rarely feel stress, they thrive doing constant power games and destroying lives. So I doubt he’s stressed.
When he dies I’ll fucking rejoice. Other than that I dunno
I will celebrate so hard
come on out armchair historians!
Jessica Foster will take over. Semper Fudge.
Peter Thiel, the puppeteer of Shady Vance, will enact the final phase of his forced “rapture”.
