Just blocked lemmy.ml from my Lemmy account, and I swear to god it’s one of the best things I’ve ever done on this platform. My homepage feels actually clean now.
For the past few months I’d been seeing a lot of tankie posting and pretty much far-left propaganda on my feed. It got tiring enough that I finally checked my blocked-user list, and realized pretty much everyone I’d blocked was from lemmy.ml. So I just blocked the whole instance instead.
Saying this as someone who considers themselves a leftist: I used to think Lemmy itself was an echo chamber. Turns out lemmy.ml was the problem the entire time. Probably the reason I tolerated it for so long is that I agreed with a lot of what they posted, but like an oversaturated meme, I’d had enough. Browsing the platform was starting to feel way too tiring instead of fun, which defeats the point of being here in the first place.
The breaking point was seeing some dude post a “meme” implying North Korea and China are basically communist utopias and that the West sucks. I mean, the West does suck, but come on - you’re saying North Korea is the ideal the West should strive for? What the hell…
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Block me too, I don’t want nerds reading my posts
I just moved to lemmy.zip from dbzer0 and before that, world, mainly because I want to be the one blocking, I don’t want my instance to block for me. I must not be subscribed to the right places, because I just don’t see a whole lot of CCP/RUS apologia? I’m pretty good at passing over shit I know I won’t agree with though, so it might just not be registering.
I have never noticed any problem with lemmy.ml.
Block all the low-quality meme/image content if lemmy feels tiring. Stop consuming garbage.
I use Lemmy.world. I don’t see any of this drama, about cat food or leftists. I do see posts that used to be regular at Reddit, with decent discussion.
I’m on .ml and just don’t see this. I moved here from .world after the cat food ban. The stupidity burned too much for me to stay there. I’m unsubscribed to most of the lemmy communities where the political crap is, so maybe that helps.
Should i ask what the “cat food ban” was?
It’s a long story but basically after some stupid drama, lemmy.world banned discussion of cat food unless there was scientific evidence presented that the cat food was healthy for the cat. The drama had been about vegan cat food discussions in the vegan discussion group. Vegan cat food turns out to be a thing and appears to have enough approvals to be sold in pet stores, but people on .world wanting to talk about it should come over here to .ml. No I wasn’t a participant in the vegan group discussion itself. I made some posts in the surrounding drama thread that you can probably find in my .world profile from shortly after I joined.
oh man, I forgot about that shit. I’m pretty sure I got banned from some communities for that.
🤷 I just blocked them back and moved on.
Pro russia propaganda is generally contained in ml own communities. The tiresome thing for me is zionist tolerant instances and communities and fake palestinians supporter who both side the colonizers and the colonized or defend rhe democrats support for the colonizers
No I seem them regularly spreading pro russian propaganda and demeaning jabs against ukrainans in .world communities. The instance has to many disgusting users for it to be waved away with the “few bad apples” defense
“A few bad apples” is not a defense, it’s a condemnation. A few bad apples spoil the bunch.
My argument was not to say that there is only few bad apples on the ml just that in my experience I don’t see their propaganda that much often outside of their bubble
Fair enough. I seem to notice them pushing it everywhere.
Day 1
Gotta throw Hexbear, Lemmygrad, and Exploding Heads in there too if your instance hasn’t defederated from 'em.
Don’t forget hilariouschaos.
Lemmy.ml isn’t a leftist instance. Tankies are radical centrists.
Bunch of labels being thrown around. How do you keep track? I just sorta identify them all as extremist crazies. Its one big group, that admittedly, if you put them all in one space, would definitely not mix well.
Well you see, I’m an extremist crazy too. I’m an anarcho-antirealist. I think consensus reality is a social construct the rich use to control our mythocultural perceptions of the world, which is why transphobia exists. I want to abolish the idea of reality.
Ya, but that’s fun. Too many words tho. Gotta learn to just be if you want to give up reality.
I identify as a goddess and I’m in a gay trans polycule with a sharkplane, a goth ghost girl, and the Speedforce from the Flash comics. We play video games together. That’s antirealist praxis.
I applaud your worldbuilding, but you are making realities. Antireality involves letting all of that go.
Reality is objective. I believe in no such thing. Instead of an objective universe, we should believe in a subjective multiverse. Countless perceptual worlds, designed by ordinary people for fun, kindness, and justice.
I prefer to abandon the worlds and the designing. Be.
i’m new to my instance that isn’t defederated from anything and I see an awful lot of whining about .ml hexbear and lemmygrad but i haven’t seen the users do anything. i’m more annoyed by the whiners so far.
but i haven’t seen the users do anything.
It’s not the users people block over, blocking an instance doesn’t stop you from interacting with the users.
What it does, is block every community from that instance from your feed, that’s it.
People block .ml, because while some decent communities may exist, their admins will see your comments elsewhere, then find any/all comments on their instance and either harass you or ban you.
The block just means you won’t accidentally stumble into a place they control.
The minority of users who are really problematic, are likely to be banned everywhere else already
their admins will see your comments elsewhere, then find any/all comments on their instance and either harass you or ban you.
Citation .ml admins do this please? Also isn’t this technically possible with every single instance of Lemmy?
Same. I don’t block anything and it’s perfectly fine tbh. So called “tankies” supposedly everywhere, but all I see are left-wing people.
It feels like people are upset about running into users who are politically left-leaning… on federated social media.
That’s like being upset about encountering queer people in the arts, or chuds in the weightlifting space, or conservatives at the gun range. What the hell did you expect?
It’s just american imperialist upset they have any pushback.
Having mindless tankies parrot ccp and russian propaganda is getting tiring.
No! It isn’t propaganda! You’re the one who is parroting propaganda!
Saying russia and china are dictatorships and stuff, i saw a post on VK that said exactly the contrary! And it must be true!
Xi Jinping said he cares about free speech, he can’t lie, only western politicians lie!
It’s not authoritarianism if I do it!
I am pretty sure that a sizeable amount of accounts there have connections to the FSB.
I heard that Putin even personally licks the stamps on the checks we get mailed every month for posting
Extremism etc has broad appeal to disenfranchised people of a certain maturity level with an absence of critical thinking skills.
IMO one of the things that’s ruining the internet currently is all the young people who don’t know shit about fuck and are completely unaware of it. Blind leading the blind shit.
In my day we used to know fuck all about shit. But kids these days…
all the young people who don’t know shit about fuck
I’m so using this from now on. Hope you don’t mind.
I think it’s a combination. There are accounts which run classic FSB style; series of innocuous posts and then ZELENSKY IS A NAZI, then innocuous posts.
Meanwhile, ignorant dumb kids who have been dealt a rough hand with covid, housing prices, ai, trump, climate change etc are pretty susceptible to the dumbest but most appealing simple answers/boogymen.
Add in the Internet’s ability to help you avoid ever encountering an opinion with which you disagree and you’ve got a very toxic breeding ground for the worst and dumbest ideas.
More worried about the much more prevalent american imperialist support.
Ah yes the vast support the current US government enjoys on …Lemmy.
Oh yes cause there is so much of that here.
We’re officially on the decline. A laughing stock to our enemies and a pariah to our allies. Even if the American people pull off a miracle somehow in 2028 and elect someone like Ocasio Cortez to the presidency. No one in Europe should just forgive everything and get all buddy buddy with us again. We’ve only shown we cannot be trusted. The ball has been passed keep your eye on where it is, not where the ball was.
“Saying this as someone who considers themselves a leftist”
Which country do you consider yourself a leftist in?
The only country there is, of course, Brazil
I think you can be legitimately a Leftist but also not insane. There’s a lot of posters over in that part of Lemmy who talk like they’d be overjoyed at the idea of rounding up everyone who’d ever expressed a view to the right of Trotsky, on Day Zero, and sending them to the gulags for being an Enemy of the Revolution.
THERE IS ONLY THE US
;-)
Don’t be surprised if you find hexbear giving you similar twitches.
Their instance was already defederated from hexbear, so they never saw posts from there.
No no no. Twitch is owned by amazon. It’s not part of the fediverse.
Hexbear users are the funniest people on the platform
Some of the stuff I’ve seen come out of there is on the level of what /pol/ would cook up. Absolutely the most troll instance of the fediverse.
ML is not far-left, it pretends to be in order to spread pro-Putin, pro-Russian, and pro-Republican state propaganda because they know it’s destroying America. ML and Russia are about as socialist as the Nazis claimed to be.
While I agree they aren’t far left. They are sincerely more socialist than the Nazis were. The problem is, they are often as authoritarian as and group think vulnerable as maga, nazis, etc. Economics is fine. But it should never supersede or dictate social policy.
And all these heavily centralized States weather corporate or otherwise always fall to the same flaws. Power calcifying and protecting itself. Not the people or Society.
When I joined Lemmy, Lemmy.ml didn’t really feel different than Lemmy.world to me.
Maybe I’m taking crazy pills but it’s like they got more propagandist on purpose. As if they decided to up the anthem because .grad got defederated by all sane instances… And what’s propaganda good for if it doesn’t reach the right people?
Same with tankies having lemmy.world accounts. It’s not ironic, it makes sense.
Now Lemmy.ml became their “outreach” instance, where they ban everyone who criticizes them (even on another instance) or even for downvoting (Dessalines did that because his favorite poster ‘cowbee’ got downvoted by “bots” too much. Then they opted out on lemvotes, so no more checking yourself).
For an outsider it looks like everyone agrees with them because they upvote each other and every critic got either banned or they blocked them themselves and I’m starting to think this might be by design. I wonder how many users are banned from .ml, while still retaining general visibility through federation.
Isn’t it basically how Russia and China operate? Keep your own people isolated in a bubble where only your narrative is accepted and at the same time invade other spaces to manipulate their opinions?
Dunno if that’s “on purpose”. I think it’s more, back in the day .ml was the defacto standard instance, so lots of average people went there and you’d find a wider bandwidth of people. That might have changed with some people leaving and the new visitors not signing up on .ml anymore. That makes the rest of the group condense to people who pick .ml on purpose. But that’s not a deliberate plan, more how maths works. 😅
.ml opted out of lemvotes because they like to brigade posts and comments.
Indeed. Funny how the only two instances I have run into that block Lemvotes are the ones that commonly have goon squads brigading threads and abusive admins.
Which is the other instance?
dbzer0
I have my problems with dbzer0’s admins and moderation but there’s something else going on there because I can see their votes.
I always get the 404 error if the post itself was from those instances (even if I check comments made in those posts’ threads). If the main post is from anywhere else, I can still see their users’ votes on the post or any comments also not from .ml or db0 users.
I don’t think I ever see .ml user votes.
I was going to ask for a source on this. But on checking in on a comment or two in this thread. This explains a lot of the consistently inconsistent behavior I’ve been seeing the few times I do check lemvotes. Like I was wondering who the hell was down voting Jo, as they are always pretty chill and even keeled. Look at any other comments on the thread no problem. I look up anyone from Lemmy.ml and it’s 404.
That’s certainly not the behavior of an instance with nothing to hide. Though I would still think administrators should be able to see the votes and identity brigading. But this does explain a few things I’ve noticed on isolated instances when I’ve used it.
Feddit.org is literally the zionist version of the tsnkis
