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    Buy cheap carriage.

    Paint with radiation symbols and rainbow flags.

    Write “GAY-diation distribution system” on the side.

    Send it on a tour of red states and enjoy the freak-outs.

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    5 hours ago

    The thing I haven’t read in this thread: how do you get your personal trail car to the station, and how do you move it about on your destination?

    It sounds cool but very inflexible.

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      You pay for someone (another rail company operating at that railyard) to move it for you into storage, where you pay the storage costs. If you need that railcar somewhere else, you pay someone to transport it somewhere else, same as how cargo rail would work.

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      It feels like the last time this service was used, everyone would have giant top hats, and their own personal railway spur to their houses.

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      I think private rail carriages are slightly more expensive and limited use than vans, which is why vanlife has taken off and carriagelife has not

      Only the rich could afford this likely, and a huge subset of the rich are people who value their time too much to spend it on transportation they don’t have direct control over.

      However, I do think there are people out there who’d do this if they found out. Travel YouTubers. The more popular ones have decent income and starting a new niche or getting in on one early can pull a lot of new viewers.

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        “Hey, jet setters! Today, we’re going to be traveling across the United States in our own private railcar… attached to an Amtrak service!”

        -Jeb, probably

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    18 hours ago

    How much does a rail car cost, and what is maintenance, inspection, etc like? This is still something of the very wealthy.

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      From some searching, they’re also available for charter. Still not something for a person of average means to do on their own, but maybe a group of upper-middle class people. Some Amtrak routes go through some incredibly scenic areas. The one that comes to mind in my neck of the woods is the Empire Builder. It would be a luxury experience for sure.

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      Yet slower, and far less convenient than air travel. Sight-seeing aside, I honestly don’t know who this is for.

      Maybe there’s a train-enthusiast club out there that has a small fleet of rail-ready cars?

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          I would gladly take the train over flying. You have more leg room, there is a dinning car, and way less security theater to deal with.

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            I’mma be taking so many trains when Rail Baltica gets built

            Wait that sounds a bit wrong

            Anyway yeah, for short to medium distances, rail is awesome. I haven’t tried super long distance rail yet. I’ve flown twice in my life and it was nice, but the first time was a short flight (3 hours) and the second time I had someone abuse their platinum status to get me one of dem nice emergency exit seats where there’s no limit to your legroom. I imagine if you’re going on like a 2 or 3 week vacation, taking a train or several there and back would be super nice, but if you’re spending a week on another continent because of time constraints, a plane sounds better.

            Once shit gets built though, I can take a local train to Tallinn, then take the new slightly faster train to Poland, then from there to Germany. The most ridiculous thing about this is the fact that this train route is going to be a HUGE thing for car enthusiasts, because the biggest used car market in Europe is Germany, and right now you have to fly to Germany to go buy a car if you can’t find what you want closer (also German prices are better). So it’s gonna be a great train route for car enthusiasts (among all the other people of course).

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        My guess is that this is a holdover from when rich people did have train cars (and sometimes even full trains!).

        I would bet there are still a couple of rich people living out their train fantasies.

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    This one of those hobbies that sounds so cool but so impractical to get into. Like it makes getting a boat sound like a cheap and easy hobby.

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      Probably not too impractical owing to the fact that you probably aren’t allowed to do jack shit yourself. It’s not like you can tow it from the depot to the station with your f150. Much easier than owning a boat :) presumably just as pricey though and with even less utility

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      I started a conversation the other day with some friends about if I ever ran for President and needed to travel the country, what impact would there be if I decided to go super old-school and get a Presidential train car.

      Side conversation; Airforce 1 is the Airliner the Pres flies on. Marine 1 is the helicoper. What would be the train designation?

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        It would be a statement, that’s for sure.

        Major problem is that Amtrak has the lowest priority on our rail network. Getting to a campaign rail-stop on time would be almost impossible without greasing some palms. So you’d have to hook up with a cargo rail line or something like that.

        Edit: Now, if you had “improve rail transportation” as a major platform plank, showing up late would be a feature, not a bug.

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          Legally, passenger rail gets the highest priority.

          However, the punishment for violating this is a fine which hasn’t been updated in decades. The rail companies realized a long time ago that it’s better to just take the fine instead of actually following the law.

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        US-CAR 1 or uscar 1. We’ve had several before so it’s not particularly an abstract.

        They’re all named after great explorers, Marco Polo, Ferdinand Magellan etc.

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          So theoretically if we got a new president who was into using trains to get around we could have a high speed uscar1 named Neil Armstrong or Yuri Gagarin? Though I assume astronauts wouldn’t be considered explorers and would be reserved for spacecraft the president is on

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            Correct though it’s unlikely any president will travel by train again given the best security is people simply not knowing where you are going or when. Being trapped in one direction is a big no no.

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              You KNOW that they’d have a fleet of helicopters, AWACS, fighter jets and vehicle escorts just hanging around the side of the running train.

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                imagine getting to be late for school because your bus got stuck at a Presidential Train Crossing, and being able to see the copters and jets fly over.

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        Awful for security. Your whereabouts would be known at all times, and the USSS can’t protect every mile of track.

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      “I am rich but I don’t need to rush around the country to keep being rich”

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        I’m gonna take my time and enjoy the ride. If you need me, come meet me on my train. I’m pulling into Kansas City tomorrow. See you there. Meanwhile I’m gonna have a cocktail and play some video games.

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        I’m looking at this and it’s so sad. Not just that several states lack lines altogether, but… The existing lines lack some obvious interconnections. Where’s the OKC to Albuquerque line? Or even El Paso to Albuquerque. Get those two long distinct lines connected! Similarly, a shortcut to Denver from the line that goes through KC and Albuquerque? And I think Jacksonville should get direct lines to Atlanta and New Orleans.

        There’s so much that could be improved here with just a few tens of thousands of miles. Focus on better interconnections between the already existing routes first because it improves mobility for more people with fewer railroads to build, then build routes to cities currently completely unserviced (actually both should be done at the same time, just a bigger focus on the former early on)

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          I really is. 34,000km vs 200,000km for the EU. An area of comparable size and population. Germany alone has about as much as the US.

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    I worked with someone that had some Great Aunt or whatever that did this. The lady just didn’t like planes, so she would travel like this. Basically, you get all the amenities of an RV, water tank fill up, power hook up, plus you can walk up to the admittedly gross food car. She said it looked like an RV apartment combo, and that the Aunt was old money, so the Mr. Monopoly vibe is accurate.

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      the admittedly gross food car.

      Is it gross to other people? Seems like an ordinary bare bones cafe to me: a few snacks, including some basic hot food, coffee/tea/soft drinks, beer, wine.

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        I’ve always found it gross. Fine for wine or coffee, but food…eesh. Soggy sandwiches, microwave hot dogs, and $9 airplane style snack packs with a $0.75 cereal bar or whatever. Had a mediocre but tolerable breakfast once, but it was just eggs and hashbrowns.

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      I’m with Great Aunt whomever. Flying sucks.

      Plus, you could make it an event or party car. Imagine a traveling bachelorette party with a murder mystery dinner, karaoke, no flying, no driving, and you end up somewhere cool and can nap on the way back.

      (100% of the pre-wedding parties I’ve been to have had karaoke and a murder mystery dinner. Sample set of one.)

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        Coworker said that time is the luxury item. Unless your car is following exactly a regular Amtrak route, at some point you get decoupled in a yard and passed off to another train, which can take hours. Basically a layover. So it sounds like it can easily become a multi-day thing to get somewhere you can get in like 5 hours by air.

        But yeah, if you have the time and inclination, it seems like a pleasant way to go.

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          in certain they’d tell you where that would happen… if the destination is less important that simply going, you could just go to whatever random city, have a night out, come back

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    For like 30 seconds I was thinking ‘car’ meant automobile and I was picturing like someone’s SUV hitched to the back of a train.

    I should get some coffee.

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      Amtrak does have the “auto train” which runs from just outside DC to just outside Orlando. You load your car on the train and ride the train rather than driving that distance. It’s apparently really popular with both snowbirds as well as vacationers

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        It’s also pretty normal in europe - It’s pretty cheap if you compare it to the cost in fuel and wear on the car if you want to make a long distance vacation, and it beats driving long hours of mostly highway during the time where EVERYONE drives into vacation and traffic jams are common.

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          We used to have that in France but I think they killed the service in the late 90s or early 2000s. It was typically paired with night trains, I thought it was a pretty cool system.

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              I live a few hours drive from Chicago and have family in LA, I would love the option to take an autotrain to visit family. The ability to bring my car to visit folks in such a car dependant place would make the cost really make a ton of sense, especially if we opted to only drive one direction and take the train the other direction.

              We’re actually planning on driving out this thanksgiving (partly decided by cost and partly by making an added stop to visit family in Arizona which Amtrak and flying would both make extremely expensive in comparison) it also helps that our car was totaled by hail damage this year so since it now has no resale value despite being fairly new and fairly low mileage, there’s just no incentive to avoid putting tons of miles on it anymore. But if we could pay a couple thousand dollars for the experience of riding the rails just one direction, we probably would go that route

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        This is also how the Channel Tunnel between Folkestone in the UK and Calais in France works, sans any amenities other than a toilet. Drive on, get taken under the strait, and drive off at the other side.

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          I remember watching a documentary about the chunnel back in the early 00s and the narrators highlighted how it’s enabled day-tripping to the other country for some folks, and spoke with a British couple who went to France to do some shopping that day

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    Mumford and Sons is currently running a tour by rail using Amtrak’s services!

    https://railroadrevival.com/

    But I’ve also heard of private groups pooling together to buy an old passenger car and keeping it maintained and up to whatever the current Amtrak requirements are so that they can do this regularly. Alternatively there’s several private companies who you can rent and charter a car or several with if you don’t want to commit long term to owning a railcar. I’ve specifically seen this one on private charter before for some model railroad events: https://261.com/cedar-rapids/