What about being around 10000 bananas for 8 hours? Are people on banana plantations at significantly higher risk of cancer?

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  • CrazyLikeGollum@lemmy.world
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    8 hours ago

    Bananas are not radioactive enough to meaningfully increase cancer risk in any quantity.

    Intensity of radiation falls according to the inverse square law. Because bananas take up space it’s not possible to have enough bananas close enough to you to irradiate you.

    Not to mention the fact that there’s a growing body of evidence that elevated radiation exposure can, to a point, decrease cancer risk.

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      5 hours ago

      That makes sense, its like overdosing on pot.

      The last bit about radiation decreasing cancer risk in low (but still elevated) doses seems pretty suspect though. Where did you find that research?

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    People saying that bananas are slightly radioactive was never about highlighting that bananas are particularly radioactive, it’s just a coomon example to show that everything is radioactive.

    You probably recieve more radiation by being outside for 1 minute than standing next to a million bananas for a month.

    Not that it even matters, most of the radiation will be stopped by the air before ever reaching you, and then most of the minute amount that reached you will be stopped by your skin.

    Unless you’re literally standing next to the demon core, you basically have nothing to worry about.

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      12 hours ago

      That’s true for radiation poisoning.
      I’m asking about increased risk of cancer.

      Lots of those things in our natural environment that you mention do increase our risk of cancer, with long-term exposure

      • SuperNovaStar@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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        4 hours ago

        “Cancer risk” can be a lot of things. It’s not like cancer is just one disease - it’s a whole family of diseases. The mechanisms by which something increases cancer risk are many and frequently poorly understood.

        Fortunately, the mechanism of action of ionizing radiation and the cancer risks associated with it are well understood, and so we know that bananas are not dangerous.*

        (* well, they’re not dangerous because they are radioactive. It could turn out that they’re dangerous for some other reason.)

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          (* well, they’re not dangerous because they are radioactive. It could turn out that they’re dangerous for some other reason.)

          Once my mate Paul was crushed by a palette of bananas. The crazy thing is, it put a load of pressure on his bowels and he shit all over the place. There was just shit and bananas everywhere. But Paul never got cancer, so I guess he was pretty lucky.

  • JackLSauce@lemmy.world
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    14 hours ago

    I once hauled a load of bananas as a trucker then developed superpowers (i.e. was later told I’m super boring)

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      14 hours ago

      I’m aware of BeD, which is the inspiration for the post.

      But I’m not talking about radiation poisoning, because we’d know if spending a day in a banana plantation was fatal.
      I’m wondering about increased risk of cancer form long term banana plantation exposure.

      • owenfromcanada@lemmy.ca
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        13 hours ago

        A couple things we can gather from these sources:

        1. Being near a banana is likely a much lower dosage. The BED article notes that eating a lot of bananas doesn’t give linear dosages, as the excess potassium is discarded. And if you’re not absorbing much radiation from it being literally inside you, I can’t imagine you’re getting much from having it further away (even at high quantities).
        2. According to the xkcd chart, we receive a yearly dosage of 390uSv from the potassium naturally in our bodies, and living in a stone, brick, or concrete building for a year results in only 70uSv. I’m not sure what the equivalent exposure would be for injecting those materials, but the picture I’m getting at this point is that external exposure to bananas would likely be less fatal than the sheer mass of what would be required to give a significant dose.
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      12 hours ago

      I guess a better way to phrase it would have been

      How many daily bananaHours do you need long-term to increase your risk of cancer by 5%?

  • HeyJoe@lemmy.world
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    14 hours ago

    Weird I just saw a YouTube video on this like a week ago. Basically you would need to eat an amount that would never be possible by a lot for anything to possibly happen. The other point is we have more radiation than a banana to begin with and are hit by more radiation in 1 day than probably a thousand would even create. Our bodies are able to remove some radiation as well. There are even some parts of the world were people are exposed to higher than normal amounts of radiation and we found that over time the rate of cancer is less than the global average so I would highly doubt being around bananas would cause any risk for cancer.