• xep@discuss.online
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    5 days ago

    You don’t need any fiber in the human diet. It was a marketing thing that everyone bought into for some reason and now it’s dogma.

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      4 days ago

      There are certain, very limited diets where you can be relatively healthy without fiber. Most notable is carnivore (although people dispute that it’s healthy), but there are a few others.

      However, the VAST majority of diets, including all of the common ones, need (and often contain) fiber. However, the amount you need is also going to vary from person to person. If you completely avoid processed foods, you’re probably getting enough already.

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      5 days ago

      going to guess you’re probably in your late-20s to mid-30s and haven’t had to shit for a week without shitting.

      wait til you’re in your 40s or 50s. that opinion you have is going to test you.

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        5 days ago

        I imagine since you’re talking about bowel movement that you think that constipation is alleviated by the consumption of fiber, but there are no RCTs that prove that that is the case. It is in fact rather the opposite:

        https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/22969234/

        I personally do not experience constipation.

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          Sixty-three cases of idiopathic constipation presenting between May 2008 and May 2010 were enrolled into the study after colonoscopy excluded an organic cause of the constipation.

          first of all, you cited a clinical, not a medical study.

          second it only had 63 cases.

          this trial is bullshit.

          just because you cite from pubmed doesn’t mean you know wtf you’re talking about.

          thirdly the author is Kok-Sun Ho, a colorectal surgeon from Singapore. you know what Singapore is well known for in the medical/pharmaceutical community? it’s a bake shop. big pharma buys doctors in Singapore to site these clinical trials as a way to discredit legitimate medical studies so they can force open a market for their new “wonder drug”.

          go eat some fiber, you’re full of shit.

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            this trial is bullshit.

            Please provide the randomized trail showing the benefit of fibre with hard end points, where they also included a zero fibre arm

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              22 hours ago

              I don’t have to, I’m not the one that’s attempting to circumvent decades of medical advice based on a flimsy trial that only targeted 63 people.

              in a real study, there would be thousands of subjects in order to get any real results.

              if there was any evidence that increasing fiber intake does not result in loosening stool, it would be a widely distributed paper with multiple peer reviews.

              actually a study found that in a random blind test of 1000+ people 66% of the subjects had constipation symptoms lessen while 44% of the placebo group also saw symptoms reduced. this means fiber had an increased chance of relieving constipation.

              so yeah, a fiber rich diet can improve your constipation but it’s different on a case-by-case basis.

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                16 hours ago

                What is the decades of advice based on?

                actually a study found that in a random blind test of 1000+ people 66% of the subjects had constipation symptoms lessen while 44% of the placebo group also saw symptoms reduced. this means fiber had an increased chance of relieving constipation.

                Can you please give me the name of this study? Id like to actually read it

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            5 days ago

            What drug ensues from fixing idiopathic constipation? Perhaps you have better studies you could share?