I get there are still users but it feel empty at times compared “other” platforms.

Why isint lemmy more popular?

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    This right here encapsulates exactly what my biggest complaint with this platform is. A news post about a controversial topic in a completely unrelated community. I’m literally on my knees, guys. I just want to talk about drawing fantasy maps and developing conlangs. Worst part is that worldbuilding/conworlding is a perfectly acceptable way to articulate your worldview, and you might even get people to listen to you if you’re creative about it, but nah that’s not blunt enough.

    And yeah, it could have been posted in error, but given what I previously described about !mildlyinteresting@lemmy.world, it very well may be on purpose.

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    Because Reddit exists.

    Reddit itself didn’t truly take off to massive scale until some other players were out of the way. It was the underdog for a long time.

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      That’s interesting. I never saw it that way, before. Now I kind of see it.

      I always sat at the “loser” table at lunch, in school.

      I changed schools many times and they - multiple different “loser” tables - welcomed me.

      It’s also just where all the most interesting people were sitting, so I wouldn’t have had it any other way.

      Maybe they were just more free to be their real selves together, because no one was trying to prove they fit some official cliche.

      Anyway, I would be proud to once again be a member of a loser table.

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    It’s a nightmare to even sign up.

    Nothing else to it.

    People will move en-masse to new platforms if the switch is easy. Nothing easy about using this platform.

    Obv the people here are techy enough to surmount the initial hurdles, but don’t kid yourself, the average person doesn’t know a damned thing. Using tech and understanding tech are two vastly different skills. And you actually need to understand tech to even get started here.

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    1. Because people still use Reddit (for some reason).

    2. Because it is fragmented and hard to understand how it works for average person.

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      1. reddit has more larger and niche communties that arnt found anywhere else in such large numbers.

      the only useful communties outside of reddit tend towards things like medical questions and drug usage forums. also spam/bot for income too on many SC.

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    It is more popular.

    That probably doesn’t make sense, but when I joined a few years ago, I could read every post across the entire lemmy-verse and be annoyed waiting for new content about anything. At the time, the survival of lemmy at all was in serious doubt.

    Now I have my handful of groups that are generally active enough that I get a consistent amount of new stuff coming in. It’s fairly low volume compared to other platforms, but it’s growing fairly steadily and becoming more useful all the time.

    The creation of communities happens with time. We’re getting there.

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      It spiked in users to like 58k monthly active users after the Reddit API scandal, but that has dwindled down to 30-35k. Would be nice to see at least 100k.

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    People aren’t here for Lemmy in particular. They’re here to avoid the others. If all you want is content, you’ll just go to Reddit. If you are here, it’s because you recognized something of the awfulness in corporate reddit but liked the format. Lemmy is Reddit for people who pay attention and care.

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    because the interface is archiac, and the majority of topics are extremist.

    normal people see the front page of lemmy and they see a bunch of weirdos going on about linux, communism, and trans stuff.

    any of the big threads with 100s of comments are full of crazies going off about violence and hate towards mainstream political positions and lifestyles.

    i am ‘mainstream’ and i have to block multiple users per day because i get constantly harassed by nutcases telling me how evil i am for using windows/mac, being a socialist democrat, and driving a car to work. if you disagree with the militant doomer wannabe revolutionaries you’re not going to have a good time here.

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      Honestly this. Everyone is always “on”. Everything HAS to be about politics, and if one syllable you utter isn’t cursing Donald Trump and his descendants unto the thousandth generation you’re labelled a fascist. I mean for heaven’s sake I don’t like him, I didn’t vote for him, and I’m counting the days until his term is over, but no that’s apparently not enough.

      Like, please, guys, I’m begging, just let me look at funny pictures of cats and talk about old video games.

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        if there is anything i’ve learned, online or not. miserable people hate anyone who isn’t as miserable as they are and will harass and insult you for not being miserable just like them.

        for example, i like my job. this makes a lot of people immediately hostile to me when they find out because they hate their job.

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          But I AM a miserable person, and I want to be LESS miserable by coming on here and having fun, but every blessed thread on here has the word “capitalist” somewhere in it. Guys I don’t even necessarily disagree with y’all I just don’t want to talk about the evils of corporate America in this thread that’s nominally about Super Mario.

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            life is reductive. it’s not my job to have ‘empathy’ for militant losers who sit around flipping between whining about their lives and then engaging in violent political fantasizing about how they will kill the non believers to the communist cause to usher in the utopia.

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      this is the correct answer

      roughly 2 million people gave lemmy a try and 1.95 million walked away

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      I can agree with you, the initial experience can be daunting for new users especially since majority of communities are of political nature. This experience honestly is why i think most people now reside in such communities - as that’s the experience with me.

      In addition, I can agree with extremist stances being prominent on here. Eco-fascism is one of those that I found common even when I was only part of the “basic” communities.

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      My god did you fucking nail it. Been thinking about bailing out over all the things you brought up.

      I’d add two things though, news users are also swamped with furry shit and little girl porn, or “anime” as some call it. I spent my first two weeks here smashing block on all that shit, yet it still pops up constantly. If 8-yo girls in sexy maid outfits and fucking dogs is your thing, lemmy might be a good fit!

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        Oh, yeah, I had to learn how to block communities pretty quickly when I arrived. It’s been so long that I had almost forgotten about that process.

        My experience with Tumblr was largely the same. My list of filtered tags there is rather long.

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      Why do Reddit and Twitter users not have a similar problem with all the fascist shit going on over there? If extremism would be the problem on Lemmy, why isn’t it a problem on Reddit or Twitter?

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        Twitter does have that problem. It’s had that problem for years. That’s why I’m not on Twitter. That doesn’t cancel out the craziness on here though.

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        because most lemmy users are extreme leftists who think everyone is a fascist. i am a facist and a nazi according to lemmy. and think think nothing of harassing and banning anyone who doesn’t agree with them. at least here i can on be banned on the .ml or extremist instances, not lemmy wide.

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    Comfort mainly. There is a small barrier for entry here, and the vast majority can’t hurdle it.

    I’m with you and wish lemmy was the default, but it takes time.

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    Network effect. Reddit has more users and more discussion, drawing in more people and discussion. I’m not worried because enshittification and bots will run it into the ground

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    The fediverse can be a confusing concept. It certainly was to me, and I’m in IT. The idea that Lemmy and other federated platforms aren’t a single monolithic site but a group of sites that share content took a bit for me to grasp. I thought it had something to do with single sign on, like you made an account on one instance and any other instance federated to yours could verify your identity with your home instance so you could post on the other instance without making a native account.

    People who join the fediverse are also by and large self selecting. That is they’re making a conscious decision to reject the corporate-run social media platforms that the fediverse seeks to replace, so merely having an account on here is making an ideological statement, and I’m including myself here. Anyway, that gives the discourse on the fediverse a more politically charged feel that may turn some people off. When you go to a community like mildlyinteresting expecting to see pics of three-chambered peanuts and yellow stop signs but get things like “French President explains the political consequences of AI” it can be kind of exhausting.

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    I’d say because it’s still new and the content is very nerd heavy as you have probably seen from all the Linux posts. Also, most user’s here come from the reddit exodus after the removal of third party apps.

    One other thing is that when you link content from Lemmy you can just link the image directly instead of sending a link to Lemmy with a login screen. The adoption rate from people linking will be a lot lower since Lemmy is not sacrificing quality to increase numbers.

    Either way, I like the size and it suits me, I can “finish” my Lemmy for the day in a reasonable amount of time and I get my fix of Linux news, memes and shitposts so it’s just a win for me.

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    This is a really good question, and I suppose the answer is the same as to why Mastodon is not more popular.

    I think it is a combination of several factors:

    1. Not many people know about it. Really, reddit is one of the most well known websites on the internet. Very few people know lemmy/mastodon.
    2. UI/UX issues. The more friction there is, the smaller the probability of someone using something. And Lemmy has TONS of friction. And the lemmy devs are not welcome to suggestions. Seriously, every suggestion that is made is probably answered with “I am against this”. If the idea did not come from their heads, they are probably against it. This has been my experience with them, at least.
    3. Lack of content. On reddit, there is tons of content. On lemmy, not so much. And people are generally not very principled. They want to consume, and completely ignore the ethics/morality of whatever it is they are doing.

    I think this is not necessarily bad though. Lemmy DOES need more content and more users. But I hope it never becomes the size of reddit. Because reddit fucking sucks. People are stupid as fuck there now. The amount of low effort and low information content on reddit is astonishing.

    Hopefully, Lemmy gets the smart, principled, interesting people and reddit keeps the influencers and onlyfaners.

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      Lemmy currently feels a lot like reddit used to in the beginning, when posts came from real people who just wanted to share ideas about things they cared about. I’d rather keep it as is than see it grow into the bloated bot farm of garbage and advertising that reddit has become.

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        somewhat. early reddit was a lot more mainstream. it was mostly a link aggregator for news stories in its early days and subreddits were not really a thing until later. i started using it in 2007 and it was much different by 2010.

        the dominant ideology was also libertarian and auti-authoritarian, not extreme leftism of various flavors that are pro authoritarian. there was very much a lack of controlling the narrative and language policing… that didn’t take hold until mid 2010s as the reddit ‘scandals’ caused the admins to start cracking down.