The US Congress certainly has gone that far.
AOC is not the only one who speaks common sense and calls out absurdity; she’s one of the very short list that does it, no matter who’s watching. She appears not to be owned by AIPAC and other ventures. It’s also why they’ll keep her out at all costs.
Imagine the most average intelligence person around.
Now recognise the fact most yanks are far below that
No, the problem is that the dumb fucks have hugely outsized representation in elections due to a corrupt, broken system.
She’s a big deal because fox news made her one. She’s the new target after Hillary stepped out of politics.
Young, female, Latina, everything MAGA hates.
Don’t forget she was a bartender in college, which they hate.
Meanwhile boebert was very literally an escort, which is how she got into politics. Yet nobody cares
Don’t forget smart and assertive
Chalking it up to racism etc. doesn’t give her the credit she deserves - typical superficial social media thinking.
If you think that avenge MAGA thinking rises above this then you haven’t been paying attention.
If you only define AOC in MAGA’s terms then neither have you. How MAGA leaders think vs how they convince their flock to think are distinctly different.
Most of the other Congresspersons are too beholden to the donor class to speak up for the rest of us.
Republicans are in an echo chamber and fixated on like 3 incorrect things she’s said
They’re terrible, stupid people
Time to stop falling for tokens and politicians. They lie. Stop falling for it. No strongman (or woman) to save us. Every little bit of do-ocracy helps ease and inspire more do-ocracy clawed back from the purple party and its two punch tactic to keep us down.
This country will never, ever vote a woman in as President. The “What I see as a leader” (sexism) runs too deep.
They said the same thing about a black man being president. We are obviously not ready yet but we will get there.
I think they did a study in Australia about this. People who voted for a minority candidate were less likely to vote for one in the future because voting for that minority candidate was there “get out of jail free” card for any future racist voting patterns.
Obama was a once-in-a-lifetime candidate and also almost engineered in a lab to make white people comfortable.
Likely the first woman president we have will be conservative --someone who woman might vote for because she is a woman, but also someone who men might vote for because she advocates patriarchy… example: Margaret Thatcher. Though, to be honest, the current crop of Christian Nationalist wouldn’t allow it, I don’t think…
Quite frankly, Democrats just aren’t going to rally behind a candidate the way Republicans do. Republicans can promise much less and still expect a decent turnout.
The first female president will be a Republican, a nightmarish ghoul, and the source of a significant amount of right wing deflection. Everything liberal women are saying now, justifiably, will be twisted in to an evil, disingenuous retort. And that will only be a distraction from the nightmare president this woman is going to be.
The first female president will have no way to climb the ladder without being horrifyingly competent. Savvy enough to know when to look like an idiot without ever being one. Manipulative enough to not only work a crowd but work a room of powerful people.
Men can get by knowing the right people and being charming. Women have to know the right people, be charming, and absolutely crush any opposition to their ascent.
Have you been watching any political discourse? Literally no one off the Epstein list has been arrested.
Common sense? She’s as intelligent as your average bartender, which is what she was when she was picked by the DNC to be pushed up the flagpole.
She’s as dumb as a doornail. She routinely makes a fool of herself when she’s asking people questions, sorting she doesn’t have the faintest clue what she’s talking about.
“… average bartender…” ?
I’m massively intrigued that you believe this construct exists. Where do you socialise; and are outsiders welcome? I’d like to meet a default bar tender, just to see what they’re like.
Bartending is, like, really hard. Average bartender must be on the upper end of the bell.
Making drinks is fairly easy, dealing with customers is the difficult bit…
I assume you live somewhere where all further/university education, accommodation and sustenance is provided freely by the state. Lucky you.
Most of the places I’ve lived you have to pay real actual money to further your formal education and if mommy and daddy can’t financially help their brave little soldier than that brave little soldier would need to get a job. Maybe something in the evening; or the weekend. So it don’t interfere with class time…
Didn’t she defeat the Democratic incumbent to get on the ballot for her seat? Oh that’s right, she defeated the Democratic caucus chair, so hardly “picked by the DNC”.
Are people like the commentator bots or just really dense?
Asking questions when you don’t know a thing (AOC) is smarter than pretending you know the thing (the vast majority of old congresspeople, especially in the GOP).
Yeah, people that had to work during/after university are inherently idiots, and everyone knows that bartenders are morons that should never aspire to anything greater than cracking beers and making cocktails for actual smart people. /S
She obviously doesn’t know anything about governing. A degree in international relations and economics is totally useless to governing. And why would she have bothered with an internship with Senator Ted Kennedy when she was going into the House of Representatives‽ Total idiot
You’re just wrong, she’s quite intelligent and if you can’t see that you have something else going on.
speaks common sense and calls out absurdity
Yes, the bar is that low.
Yeah, providing good ideas on how to reform current issues and showing how they could benefit the people is a dream it seems.
Every politician im seeing just says, “I’m going to stop immigrants from driving up crime!”
Or some crazy shit, and never provides any method/studies/statistics to show how or why, because the absurdity of the claims start to show.
Trump: “I’m going to cut your electricity costs by half!”
Yet never says how he’s planning on doing that, implements no policies aimed at reducing those costs, and suffers no loss of MAGA supporters when he instead drove up those costs starting a war with a country halfway around the world.
So AOC or whomever says, you didn’t do what you said, and people cheer it on I guess.
Great and all… But can the representatives show us their plan on How they mean to fix issues
Any politician that actually speaks common sense is a big deal.
Plenty of politicians exist who have sensible policies and speak truth to power and yadda yadda yadda. Most of them lose. The ones that win mostly get back-benched by party leadership or primaried out of office in subsequent elections.
AOC (and Sanders and Mamdani and a few others) tend to be notable because they advance popular policies in a manner that cut through corporate media white noise, while surviving a deluge of character attacks and faux-scandals intent on derailing their mission.
It’s not merely that you have some rando saying shit. It’s that you can hear that person, you can be represented by that person, and you can organize around that person to elect other politicians with a similar set of values and beliefs.
common sense
Careful with that term these days.
The rightwingnuts tend to call their anti-progressiveness talking points “common sense”.
And by common sense, we mean actual things that might improve the lives of the majority, rather than the racist, sexist twaddle that might come out of a drunk trailer dweller, only spoken by a rich white (or in this case, mostly orange) man in a tie.
“In the land of the blind, the one eyed man is king.”
But being serious: AOC and politicians like her ARE us “doing it for ourselves.” For a very long time, the vast majority of politicians elected in the US have gotten there by getting the backing of wealthy capitalists. They don’t say “common sense things” because those things aren’t good for the people who helped them get elected. If they did say those things, those capitalists would not only stop funding them, but fund their opposition more. The result is a government comprised of politicians who very rationally don’t represent us. (That’s not to say some of them aren’t crazy on their own, but them being there is a rational outcome of self-interested actors.)
In order to get a politician who does and says things that are good for people, you need an absolutely massive grass roots effort to win an election against the might of rich donors. AOC was one of the notable times when we managed to do that. But this shows the limitations of that strategy within our current electoral system. For every AOC, Illhan Omar, or Mamdani, there are literally hundreds of more races which are still dominated by big money. It took not only a massive on the ground organizing effort locally, but also a lot of support from engaged people across the nation. And it’s way more costly for the average person to contribute to a campaign than it is for a billionaire. So even if a lot of us want this, it’s going to be really difficult to get a critical mass of wins to actually make an impact.
So that’s why they’re a big deal. They might be basic social democrats in some less corrupt countries, but here they are the few who are unbought. What they say is less relevant than the fact that they are able to say it at all.
For those here who remember AOC being a monitor company and not some politician, OP is talking about Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez, who is one of the representatives of the state of New York in the House of the Congress of the USA.
The Advent Of Code shares the same abbreviation
This was a huge cause of confusion years ago when the media started using “AOC” to refer to her. I was like, damn, their monitors used to be cheap crap, why are they so popular now?
It was nothing compared to the horrors of MTG
I hear magic the gathering is addictive, never gotten around to playing it
Good point
I can definitely see that.
It’s really annoying to me when people make posts in a general community without giving any kind of context (to non-US-Americans in this case) and this one had me tripping over mental monitors for a hot second.
Typing how useless this comment is on one of several AOC monitors I use daily
Typing how useless this comment is for the other 94% of the planet
People want to hear politicians repeat what they think
